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Thrust of argument: So if you look at "Frasier", in it the qualities which in "Rumpole" are assigned to Claude Erskine-Brown and labelled pretentious and essentially unintelligent are assigned to Frasier and his brother and presumed by Americans and Americanised Europeans and others to be intelligent and cultured qualities - in fact it helps them write off intelligence and culture as pretentious, whilst Rumpole does the opposite, shows that pretentiousness is not intelligent.

The way American fake-elites and Americanised British and European fake-elites see Frasier as a genuine intellectual demonstrates that they are a world governed by the ways and ideas of the Erskine Browns.
Direction of resistance / implied resistance: There is another good example. In Lenny Henry's Delbert Wilkins show, Delbert is cultured and intelligent and often understands classical references and his side kick Winston is a fool who knows nothing and says and does stupid things. Winston of course is the one given a 'proper' job in the end and boosted by the system whilst the more intelligent Delbert is crushed underfoot and has to become a pirate DJ to use his talents properly.

In America's "Benson" meanwhile Benson is a bit of a thug, an ex army man who like in Frasier sees the pretentious and fake-elite white underling of the governor as pretentious for knowing any classical references (in an episode entitled Fool's gold, a reference is made to some classical European mythology and Benson doesn't know what it is, but the pretentious white man does).

In Britain non white intellectuals and their position in society are in a different boat to the USA - because perhaps they are more estranged. In the USA entire communities are estranged, intellectuals and all, so within a black community a black intellectual may not be treated as Delbert Wilkins but perhaps as someone more like Jesse Jackson.

 

 

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Removal of resistance: These two examples tell us something about the difference between real elites (eg Alex Cockburn) and the pretentiousness and fake-elitism in the USA and the Americanised sequestered exclusive social groups in Britain and the 'EU' full mostly of white people and a very underpresentative and Winston-like group of tokens working with or more usually for those white people. Unification: Alex Cockburn was a product of the same things as Lenny Henry, ultimately, whereas sadly even Alex Cockburn's many American journalist associates have only ever been raised with Benson in mind, not Henry. This is why in America you ended up with Hobama, and in Britain we have Corbyn. The latter a biproduct fully of the same things which made Lenny Henry and Alex Cockburn both. Next, with a bit of effort and luck, I will get on with those Nixon-related Alex Cockburn quotes about anti-semitism among white capitalist filth.
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American fake-elite cretin "Ellen" shows her absolute stupidity: https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/10/21/myopic-morality-the-rehabilitation-of-george-w-bush

 

 

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Hobama vs Corbyn.

So if you look at "Frasier", in it the qualities which in "Rumpole" are assigned to Claude Erskine-Brown and labelled pretentious and essentially unintelligent are assigned to Frasier and his brother and presumed by Americans and Americanised Europeans and others to be intelligent and cultured qualities - in fact it helps them write off intelligence and culture as pretentious, whilst Rumpole does the opposite, shows that pretentiousness is not intelligent.

The way American fake-elites and Americanised British and European fake-elites see Frasier as a genuine intellectual demonstrates that they are a world governed by the ways and ideas of the Erskine Browns.

There is another good example. In Lenny Henry's Delbert Wilkins show, Delbert is cultured and intelligent and often understands classical references and his side kick Winston is a fool who knows nothing and says and does stupid things. Winston of course is the one given a 'proper' job in the end and boosted by the system whilst the more intelligent Delbert is crushed underfoot and has to become a pirate DJ to use his talents properly.

In America's "Benson" meanwhile Benson is a bit of a thug, an ex army man who like in Frasier sees the pretentious and fake-elite white underling of the governor as pretentious for knowing any classical references (in an episode entitled Fool's gold, a reference is made to some classical European mythology and Benson doesn't know what it is, but the pretentious white man does).

In Britain non white intellectuals and their position in society are in a different boat to the USA - because perhaps they are more estranged. In the USA entire communities are estranged, intellectuals and all, so within a black community a black intellectual may not be treated as Delbert Wilkins but perhaps as someone more like Jesse Jackson.

These two examples tell us something about the difference between real elites (eg Alex Cockburn) and the pretentiousness and fake-elitism in the USA and the Americanised sequestered exclusive social groups in Britain and the 'EU' full mostly of white people and a very underpresentative and Winston-like group of tokens working with or more usually for those white people.

Alex Cockburn was a product of the same things as Lenny Henry, ultimately, whereas sadly even Alex Cockburn's many American journalist associates have only ever been raised with Benson in mind, not Henry. This is why in America you ended up with Hobama, and in Britain we have Corbyn. The latter a biproduct fully of the same things which made Lenny Henry and Alex Cockburn both. Next, with a bit of effort and luck, I will get on with those Nixon-related Alex Cockburn quotes about anti-semitism among white capitalist filth.



American fake-elite cretin "Ellen" shows her absolute stupidity: https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/10/21/myopic-morality-the-rehabilitation-of-george-w-bush