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If the USA armed the far right in Europe to slay many Europeans, and Americans militarily 'intervened' in Europe, supporting those 'troops' - would you blame the millions of British and European deaths on British and European people or on Americans?   Share:  
Thrust of argument: Yet if we change British and European to Iraqi or Afghan, then suddenly half the racists out there, at least, pretend that somehow the Iraqis killed themselves, and that American and European and British militarism in the region is "not responsible" for the fact that As many as 7 million innocent, mostly 'muslim' people may have been killed in your name. That's something like 23,000 buildings like the Grenfell Tower all being incinerated in that fashion - that's how many people 'we' have killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, 23,000 lots of the Grenfell Tower. Died in the same way - innocent and in the way of corporations' dollars. All this death has to be stopped and everything leading up to it. 'Our' war machine is beyond the pale.

Many of those deaths were due to sanctions, do note as well. Are sanctions by Clinton, which killed these people, something 'the iraqis did'? Really? Is that going to be the case you make? Are you sure? What happens if the world puts sanctions on the USA, Britain and Europe one day? What if it's soon? Or indeed what if the American far right continues to arm right wing European and British militias to the point of internal military conflict? Will you blame yourselves when the Americans arm white racists to start a civil war in this part of the world? A continent overflowing with them?
Direction of resistance / implied resistance: When you prove to a western racist that they are being racist, 999/1000 times they will walk away and refuse to dignify the conversation any more, they will go into total denial and pretend it never happened, perhaps use you as an example of someone evil and 'not western'.

 

 

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https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/21/normalizing-atrocity/
https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/06/30/have-millions-of-deaths-from-americas-war-on-terror-been-concealed/
https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/05/19/empire-over-life/
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If the USA armed the far right in Europe to slay many Europeans, and Americans militarily 'intervened' in Europe, supporting those 'troops' - would you blame the millions of British and European deaths on British and European people or on Americans?

Yet if we change British and European to Iraqi or Afghan, then suddenly half the racists out there, at least, pretend that somehow the Iraqis killed themselves, and that American and European and British militarism in the region is "not responsible" for the fact that As many as 7 million innocent, mostly 'muslim' people may have been killed in your name. That's something like 23,000 buildings like the Grenfell Tower all being incinerated in that fashion - that's how many people 'we' have killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, 23,000 lots of the Grenfell Tower. Died in the same way - innocent and in the way of corporations' dollars. All this death has to be stopped and everything leading up to it. 'Our' war machine is beyond the pale.

Many of those deaths were due to sanctions, do note as well. Are sanctions by Clinton, which killed these people, something 'the iraqis did'? Really? Is that going to be the case you make? Are you sure? What happens if the world puts sanctions on the USA, Britain and Europe one day? What if it's soon? Or indeed what if the American far right continues to arm right wing European and British militias to the point of internal military conflict? Will you blame yourselves when the Americans arm white racists to start a civil war in this part of the world? A continent overflowing with them?

When you prove to a western racist that they are being racist, 999/1000 times they will walk away and refuse to dignify the conversation any more, they will go into total denial and pretend it never happened, perhaps use you as an example of someone evil and 'not western'.

These are questions anyone responsible must ask.

If that's you, ask. Ask yourself, first. And then ask 'truth' - ie research and read everything which is actually necessary - which may help you change what may otherwise happen (if people like you fail to act appropriately and in a timely manner). At the moment some of you are on the brink of setting off the killing of many many more people, perhaps in Iran next. Perhaps all over the Middle East, perhaps all over the world, as a result of your catastrophically stupid and violent activities. Meanwhile you are loudly busy pointing at people like Corbyn and calling him names, and people like me. Whilst we are insisting on change, on education, on cessation of this global gang warfare driven by gluttony and money-worship, and you continue to rack up murder victims of your huge crime spree.



https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/21/normalizing-atrocity/
https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/06/30/have-millions-of-deaths-from-americas-war-on-terror-been-concealed/
https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/05/19/empire-over-life/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfXmpJRZPYI