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Many left wing jews are not jews, opponent of Palestinian rights Momentum's Lansman feels. Only jews who agree with him are real jews, he clearly thinks, in that deranged way religious fundamentalists think.   Share:  
Thrust of argument: The Canary informs us:

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Momentum founder Jon Lansman is facing criticism after he claimed a group of left-wing Jews are 'not part of' the Jewish community.

Jewish Voice for Labour (JVL) is made up of Jewish Labour members, and the organisation is active in around "half of all local constituency [Labour] parties".

Still, in an email to JVL, Lansman claimed that the organisation is not "part of the Jewish community", saying:

<< neither the vast majority of individual members of JVL nor the organisation itself can really be said to be part of the Jewish community >>

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Direction of resistance / implied resistance: The Canary's conclusion: << Who is really in denial?

Neither JVL nor its supporters are denying that some antisemitism exists in Labour. The people in denial seem to be those like Lansman who refuse to properly acknowledge the weaponisation of antisemitism allegations against Corbyn's leadership. In fact, this apparent cowardice from some on the Labour left has allowed the political attacks to gain their current traction. So we should commend JVL for standing against dangerous smears that are obscuring the fight against real antisemitism and damaging the only real alternative to Conservative austerity. Suggesting JVL members are the 'wrong sort of Jews' for taking a stand, meanwhile, is frankly a disgrace. >>

 

 

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Removal of resistance: To Lansman I have one or two things to say right here, and to all others out there who make up outrageous claims about 'anti-semitism' in order to OBSTRUCT the defence of other people (whether Palestinians, Iraqis, Libyans, Yemenis, Iranians, or anyone else) from genocide and imperialist or mercantile-feudal military attacks and occupations.

It is no secret that most of those who opposed Apartheid in South Africa, perhaps all, see Israel as a worse "apartheid state". To obstruct justice for Palestinians is, as Zijek and Sanders have both made clear, in public, to continue the work of those who committed the holocaust of jews last century, and to say that you do it in the name of those jews is a desecration of their memory.
Unification: So, Lansman. Let me tell you.

I'm sick of anti-semites and racists like you who obstruct Corbyn shamelessly. Particularly when not only does he have so much jewish support but most non white people in England see him as the only anti-racist leader in Parliament (although Lucas is the same as him).

The sincerity of those who claim to lament the holocaust of jews last century is a joke if such people oppose Corbyn and in any way support or are silent about the genocides committed by the USA, Europe and Israel THIS century, THIS decade, THIS year, THIS week, THIS morning, THIS minute.

I never realised it before and most of my friends from school don't realise it but they really do NOT sincerely lament the holocaust of jews.

ANYONE sincere in that lament would oppose today's genocide as firmly as they condemn Hitler's.

But the sincerity was never going to be there, not in a society which portrays Britain's centuries of genocide and destruction of people's lives as a "civilising" force.

Shame on you.

As many as 7 million innocent, mostly 'muslim' people may have been killed in your name. That's something like 23,000 buildings like the Grenfell Tower all being incinerated in that fashion - that's how many people 'we' have killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, 23,000 lots of the Grenfell Tower. Died in the same way - innocent and in the way of corporations' dollars. All this death has to be stopped and everything leading up to it. 'Our' war machine is beyond the pale.

Jack Balkwill writes << Australian scientist Gideon Polya did a study of the effect of war on the Afghanistan population and concluded that as a result of the invasion and occupation up to 2009,'This carnage involving 4.5 million post-invasion violent and non-violent excess Afghan deaths constitutes an Afghan Holocaust and an Afghan Genocide as defined by Article 2 of the UN Genocide Convention.

So if this estimate is correct, there are 4.5 million dead in Afghanistan as a result of the invasion and occupation. Combined with the 2.5 million who died from war and sanctions in Iraq, we arrive at the rough figure of 7 million dead.

But if 7 million people died, why is it that few seem aware of these numbers? After all, anyone you ask on the street can tell you 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust. Why aren't 7 million Muslims important enough to notice? >>

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds.

Be ashamed of anyone who disregards those 7 million dead.

As ashamed as I and many are of anyone who does that OR disregards the 6 million jews who died in a similar genocide which clearly too few people truly learned from. 7 million people may have been slaughtered in Afghanistan and Iraq. Are 6 million Jews MORE important than 7 million Iraqis and Afghans (or the same? Just as important?)

As for Labour party racism - isn't it time we address JEWISH RACISTS in the Labour party?

Imagine if Sarah Champion had said about Jewish Men what she said about Pakistani Men? She WOULD be called racist - indeed 'anti-semitic'.

So there's no doubt SHE IS A RACIST.

Her attitude to Pakistani men is such that if she had the same attitude as that towards Jewish men, she would never again work in Whitehall.

She could say it after the Weinstein incident, for example - and it'd be a similar statement to that she has made about Pakistani men.

Eg if after Weinstein was exposed as a sex abuser she had implied that it was a Jewish problem and that there were Jewish grooming gangs in Hollywood. And there's Jess Phillips, who makes wild claims about Pakistanis or Bangladeshis importing wives for disabled children. Would she make generlisations about jews based on a few cases like Weinstein's were Jess in Hollywood and a Christian? Perhaps. If what she had said had been said about jews it would be correctly labelled racist/'anti-semitic'. She's unfit to be an MP. The world is bigger than the 3 non-white people (or whatever it is) you know, Jess. It is unacceptable that this needs to be explained to you, you are unfit to be an MP, please resign and, as Marina Hyde puts it, go and save hedgehogs. I'm sure you can do less harm that way.

And this:

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NEW YORK (JTA) - The Anti-Defamation League found that 1,879 anti-Semitic acts were committed in the United States in 2018.

Right-wing individuals were responsible for 1,328 of those incidents - nearly 71 percent. Left-wing individuals were responsible for none of 2018's attacks, and Islamist individuals were responsible for four, according to the organization's data.

"Neither side of the political spectrum is exempt from intolerance. The idea that this is a problem with only one side is wrong," ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency during a conference call. However, he added that "white supremacy is a global terror threat."

Examining the ADL's data going back to 2002, JTA found that 2,633 - approximately 34 percent - of the 7,686 reported anti-Semitic and extremist incidents have been attributed to perpetrators with right-wing ideology, compared to 137 attributed to Islamists or those with a left-wing ideology.

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Clearly the pretence that corbyn, the left and muslims are generally 'anti-semitic' helps the right wing, the real source of almost all anti-semitism, and obviously other racism (as if racism should be divided up, it's ALL racism - or xenophobia, for the nit pickers), stay in denial.
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https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/06/30/have-millions-of-deaths-from-americas-war-on-terror-been-concealed/
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Many left wing jews are not jews, opponent of Palestinian rights Momentum's Lansman feels. Only jews who agree with him are real jews, he clearly thinks, in that deranged way religious fundamentalists think.

The Canary informs us:

<<<

Momentum founder Jon Lansman is facing criticism after he claimed a group of left-wing Jews are 'not part of' the Jewish community.

Jewish Voice for Labour (JVL) is made up of Jewish Labour members, and the organisation is active in around "half of all local constituency [Labour] parties".

Still, in an email to JVL, Lansman claimed that the organisation is not "part of the Jewish community", saying:

<< neither the vast majority of individual members of JVL nor the organisation itself can really be said to be part of the Jewish community >>

>>>

The Canary's conclusion: << Who is really in denial?

Neither JVL nor its supporters are denying that some antisemitism exists in Labour. The people in denial seem to be those like Lansman who refuse to properly acknowledge the weaponisation of antisemitism allegations against Corbyn's leadership. In fact, this apparent cowardice from some on the Labour left has allowed the political attacks to gain their current traction. So we should commend JVL for standing against dangerous smears that are obscuring the fight against real antisemitism and damaging the only real alternative to Conservative austerity. Suggesting JVL members are the 'wrong sort of Jews' for taking a stand, meanwhile, is frankly a disgrace. >>

To Lansman I have one or two things to say right here, and to all others out there who make up outrageous claims about 'anti-semitism' in order to OBSTRUCT the defence of other people (whether Palestinians, Iraqis, Libyans, Yemenis, Iranians, or anyone else) from genocide and imperialist or mercantile-feudal military attacks and occupations.

It is no secret that most of those who opposed Apartheid in South Africa, perhaps all, see Israel as a worse "apartheid state". To obstruct justice for Palestinians is, as Zijek and Sanders have both made clear, in public, to continue the work of those who committed the holocaust of jews last century, and to say that you do it in the name of those jews is a desecration of their memory.

So, Lansman. Let me tell you.

I'm sick of anti-semites and racists like you who obstruct Corbyn shamelessly. Particularly when not only does he have so much jewish support but most non white people in England see him as the only anti-racist leader in Parliament (although Lucas is the same as him).

The sincerity of those who claim to lament the holocaust of jews last century is a joke if such people oppose Corbyn and in any way support or are silent about the genocides committed by the USA, Europe and Israel THIS century, THIS decade, THIS year, THIS week, THIS morning, THIS minute.

I never realised it before and most of my friends from school don't realise it but they really do NOT sincerely lament the holocaust of jews.

ANYONE sincere in that lament would oppose today's genocide as firmly as they condemn Hitler's.

But the sincerity was never going to be there, not in a society which portrays Britain's centuries of genocide and destruction of people's lives as a "civilising" force.

Shame on you.

As many as 7 million innocent, mostly 'muslim' people may have been killed in your name. That's something like 23,000 buildings like the Grenfell Tower all being incinerated in that fashion - that's how many people 'we' have killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, 23,000 lots of the Grenfell Tower. Died in the same way - innocent and in the way of corporations' dollars. All this death has to be stopped and everything leading up to it. 'Our' war machine is beyond the pale.

Jack Balkwill writes << Australian scientist Gideon Polya did a study of the effect of war on the Afghanistan population and concluded that as a result of the invasion and occupation up to 2009,'This carnage involving 4.5 million post-invasion violent and non-violent excess Afghan deaths constitutes an Afghan Holocaust and an Afghan Genocide as defined by Article 2 of the UN Genocide Convention.

So if this estimate is correct, there are 4.5 million dead in Afghanistan as a result of the invasion and occupation. Combined with the 2.5 million who died from war and sanctions in Iraq, we arrive at the rough figure of 7 million dead.

But if 7 million people died, why is it that few seem aware of these numbers? After all, anyone you ask on the street can tell you 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust. Why aren't 7 million Muslims important enough to notice? >>

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds.

Be ashamed of anyone who disregards those 7 million dead.

As ashamed as I and many are of anyone who does that OR disregards the 6 million jews who died in a similar genocide which clearly too few people truly learned from. 7 million people may have been slaughtered in Afghanistan and Iraq. Are 6 million Jews MORE important than 7 million Iraqis and Afghans (or the same? Just as important?)

As for Labour party racism - isn't it time we address JEWISH RACISTS in the Labour party?

Imagine if Sarah Champion had said about Jewish Men what she said about Pakistani Men? She WOULD be called racist - indeed 'anti-semitic'.

So there's no doubt SHE IS A RACIST.

Her attitude to Pakistani men is such that if she had the same attitude as that towards Jewish men, she would never again work in Whitehall.

She could say it after the Weinstein incident, for example - and it'd be a similar statement to that she has made about Pakistani men.

Eg if after Weinstein was exposed as a sex abuser she had implied that it was a Jewish problem and that there were Jewish grooming gangs in Hollywood. And there's Jess Phillips, who makes wild claims about Pakistanis or Bangladeshis importing wives for disabled children. Would she make generlisations about jews based on a few cases like Weinstein's were Jess in Hollywood and a Christian? Perhaps. If what she had said had been said about jews it would be correctly labelled racist/'anti-semitic'. She's unfit to be an MP. The world is bigger than the 3 non-white people (or whatever it is) you know, Jess. It is unacceptable that this needs to be explained to you, you are unfit to be an MP, please resign and, as Marina Hyde puts it, go and save hedgehogs. I'm sure you can do less harm that way.

And this:

<<

NEW YORK (JTA) - The Anti-Defamation League found that 1,879 anti-Semitic acts were committed in the United States in 2018.

Right-wing individuals were responsible for 1,328 of those incidents - nearly 71 percent. Left-wing individuals were responsible for none of 2018's attacks, and Islamist individuals were responsible for four, according to the organization's data.

"Neither side of the political spectrum is exempt from intolerance. The idea that this is a problem with only one side is wrong," ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency during a conference call. However, he added that "white supremacy is a global terror threat."

Examining the ADL's data going back to 2002, JTA found that 2,633 - approximately 34 percent - of the 7,686 reported anti-Semitic and extremist incidents have been attributed to perpetrators with right-wing ideology, compared to 137 attributed to Islamists or those with a left-wing ideology.

>>

Clearly the pretence that corbyn, the left and muslims are generally 'anti-semitic' helps the right wing, the real source of almost all anti-semitism, and obviously other racism (as if racism should be divided up, it's ALL racism - or xenophobia, for the nit pickers), stay in denial.



https://www.thecanary.co/uk/[..]-left-wing-jews-are-not-part-of-the-jewish-community/
https://forward.com/fast-forward/423538/right-wing-responsible-for-71-of-anti-semitic-extremist-incidents-adl/
https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/06/30/have-millions-of-deaths-from-americas-war-on-terror-been-concealed/
https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/05/19/empire-over-life/